Carolina North

ETA on the Innovation Center?

Word has been trickling out that UNC's plans to build an "Innovation Center" at the future site of their Carolina North satellite campus are slowing down along with the U.S. economy.  Given that they had planned to build the Innovation Center before developing and approving the master plan for the campus that it should fit into, I can't say I'm bothered by the delay.

"We're working with Alexandria [Real Estate Equities] on this project, and we anticipated having a lease signed by now," [Chancellor Holden] Thorp said. "We don't have a lease yet and we don't think it's appropriate to ask the town to do more work on that until we're there. I'd say there are a number of reasons [for the delay], and the economy is definitely a factor." 

- heraldsun.com: Economy delays Carolina North, 10/29/08

It seems to me that this isn't the first time Carolina North has been stymied by an economic slowdown. Just 10 years ago, the town and university leaders had completed a joint plan for the area, now known as the JJR plan. But after the dot-com bust, we suddenly didn't hear very much about this huge project for a while. This is the danger of tying public infrastructure up with the private market.  Will the current recession have a similar impact on Carolina North plans?

So what's your guess on when - or if - they will break ground on the Innovation Center?

in 1 year, as planned
6% (1 vote)
in 2-3 years
69% (11 votes)
in 4-5 years
13% (2 votes)
not until Carolina North is built (whenever the heck that is)
13% (2 votes)
Total votes: 16

Public Education Session on Carolina North

11/19/2008 - 7:00am
Location: 
Chapel Hill Town Hall, 405 Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd

Via e-mail announcment:

TBlake's picture

I Stand Corrected

Before I elaborate on my mea culpa, let me assure the gentile reader I have not wavered one iota in my opposition to this ill conceived airport idea. In fact I am more dedicated than ever :)

I had the opportunity to exchange emails with House Speaker Hackney on the subject of my claim that S1925 bypasses county zoning ordinances. Speaker Hackney asserted that S1925 did not circumvent zoning and that he had put specific language into the bill that prevented Orange county zoning from being bypassed. I told him was not a lawyer, but I still had concerns.

Speaker Hackney pointed to this specific language in S1925:

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Landfill Gas Project

As part of our move to sustainable energy practices, the University is partnering with Orange County on a project to turn the landfill gas from the Orange County Landfill on Eubanks Road into energy. On Monday, October 13, from 7 - 8:30 p.m. Orange County will host an information meeting on the project at the Seymour Center at 2551 Homestead Road in Chapel Hill.

Landfills like the one on Eubanks Road produce landfill gas, created as the waste stored there decomposes. The landfill gas then escapes into the atmosphere and is a major contributor to greenhouse gas emissions. This project would collect the gas and transport it to University property where it would be converted to electricity. This electricity would be used for power at the Giles Horney complex on Martin Luther King Boulevard and later for buildings at Carolina North.

Guiding Development at Carolina North (Chapel Hill Town Council)

10/15/2008 - 7:00pm
Location: 
Chapel Hill Town Hall, Council Chambers

According to the meeting agenda:

The Council will seek input from the public regarding the proposed process for guiding development at Carolina North. At the request of the Mayor this item has been moved to the beginning of the meeting due to extensive public interest

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Town Council Process for Development of Carolina North

On Thursday evening September 25th, at 7 PM, the Chapel Hill Town Council held a special meeting at the Friday Center.  In addition to all of the Council members (except Councilman Bill Thorpe who is absent due to medical issues) the Council Members were joined by UNC representatives Roger Perry (Chair, Board of Trustees), Bob Winston (trustee, Chair of the Building Committee) and Jack Evans, who is is chair of the Carolina North project for the University.

One of the important points that was made early by Roger Perry was that he and Bob Winston speak for the trustees and he gave assurances that anything that they agreed to in principle would be supported by the Trustees.  Another important issue was that of timing.  Roger pointed out that in July there will be 6 new trustees (out of 13) and that these new trustees would come in with little or no background.  Thus he urged the Council to consider a timetable that would complete by the Council's summer recess the necessary steps (e.g., rezoning, development agreement?) to allow Carolina North to go forward.

Joint Policy Meeting Regarding Carolina North

09/25/2008 - 7:00pm
Location: 
Friday Center, Chapel Hill

This is interesting. I may have missed the announcement of this high-level negotiating process between UNC Trustees and the Chapel Hill Town Council. It's not clear to me whether it's open to the public, or if we just get to watch the highlights later.

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New Horace Williams Airport: A Third Way

[Long-time lurker, first time poster]

Two paths diverged in the woods and I took the third.

It occurrs to me that there might be another way to meet (or even exceed) AHEC's needs while also preserving land and avoiding a protracted debate and a souring of town-gown relations.

So far the paths being argued are:  1) Build a new airport in the county or 2) Base all operations from RDU.  I believe there is a third path that hasn't been considered.

In short, build a heliport.  Let that sink in for a minute and then read on for more...

We all know helicopters don't need much space to operate, so this is an easy one.  In fact, it could even be sited on the existing Horace Williams airport while still allowing for plenty of space for the new campus.

Ruby Sinreich's picture

Ann Arbor is not Chapel Hill (duh)

I took some photos today but they are truly horrible. Wlil post later. Some of my biggest impressions so far:

  1. The empty Pfizer campus, and the Chamber director talking about nearby businesses that are about to go under from losing the business from 2,000 employees & 1,000 contractors that used to work there. Are you listening Carolina North folks?
  2. There are lots of tall buildings (5 - 10 - 15 feet stories) and most of them look really nice and seem to work well. Some of them don't though. I talked with some folks tonight about how Chapel Hill lacks the regulatory tools to analyze tall buildings. How do we know how tall is "too tall", what are factors that make it work or make it fail? One local suggested that I meet a woman from their downtown commission, but I'm really more interested in the perspective of a City Council or Planning Board type.
Ruby Sinreich's picture

UNC Board rejects Innovation Center design

Kudos to the UNC-CH Board of Trustees for rejecting a recent architectural plan for the inaugural building at Carolina North. It seems they felt the proposed design of the Innovation Center was not innovative enough to mark the entrance to the modern new campus which they plan to build in the northern heart of Chapel Hill. I was glad to see that the BOT has such high expectations for the building, but was a bit concerned about administrators' refusal to consider locating the building anywhere other than the grand entrance.

I still don't understand the logic behind UNC doing construction before completing the plan for the larger campus into which this building must fit. I really don't feel I can support any thing on that site until we see that it will be part of a commitment to use Carolina North to enhance Chapel Hill and not just UNC's bottom line.

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